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Post by Tilly - Formerly Punky Mon Apr 04, 2011 6:02 pm

Hey everyone, I need some serious help. Neutral

Well, we all know how popular split cakes are becomin now, and I have several, but don't have a whole lot of uses for any of them yet because I am really late getting into the whole split cake craze. I have been wanting to do some these awesome one stroke designs that take no time at all and I am having so much trouble getting the hang of it! Mad

I purchased the Fleur Prisma cake this past weekend at the Clown Forum Spring Fling when I found out I'd have to pump out some quick yet effective designs for kids with limited amounts of sponges. So, I bought the cake with the thought in mind that it'd be a great cake for making simple one step roses and leaves that I just LOVE the look of and envy. I can make the leaves no problem but the roses are killing me. Is there some magical secret that I missed or someone didn't mention in the numerous youtube vids I've watched?? confused

I will post pics of my attemps later as I'm at school waiting for class to start right now with no access to my laptop with all my pics or even my camera, but any suggestions until then would be much appreciated!
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Post by AngieAnders Mon Apr 04, 2011 6:54 pm

I finally took a class at LaFete from Rebecca last month and I feel a lot better about those darn roses. Still need more practice (the center one looks flat with no petals overlapping, plus I forgot DOTS...) and a way to take Rebecca's lovely design and put my own spin on it, but it's much improved.

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Post by Abril Mon Apr 04, 2011 7:05 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1N187_Yb9sA


Check out this video!...im having the same issue!..and im actually barely learning how to make those roses Sad ...so good luck to both of us! i Love this video..the lady makes it look SO darn easy! Razz
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Post by anramire2 Mon Apr 04, 2011 7:20 pm

AngieAnders wrote:I finally took a class at LaFete from Rebecca last month and I feel a lot better about those darn roses. Still need more practice (the center one looks flat with no petals overlapping, plus I forgot DOTS...) and a way to take Rebecca's lovely design and put my own spin on it, but it's much improved.

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OMG Shocked THose are awesome!!!! I wish I could do them 1/2 as good!
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Post by Geekophile Mon Apr 04, 2011 7:35 pm

Rebecca's class was sooo helpful wasn't it!? Roses and leaves of course, but also snakes and dragons and fire and feathers... Seriously, Punky, you might want to reconsider practicing with these things- cause once you get it there's no turning back!
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Post by maggie Mon Apr 04, 2011 8:53 pm

So this is what works for me, I try using a smaller brush. This one I did with a 3/4" maybe or a 1/2" don't remember but I think is a lot easier to control, unless you are painting a big rose.

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Post by Guest Mon Apr 04, 2011 10:26 pm

I STILL can't do roses. And I took Rebecca's class TWICE and she spent a ton of time with me one-on-one on top of that.

I just don't do roses. I can rock peacock feathers though!

I use the split cakes with my sponges a lot for fast blended bases.

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Post by Tilly - Formerly Punky Mon Apr 04, 2011 10:42 pm

Maggie! I love Love LOVE those roses! That's the look I'm going for! I just can't seem to get there....

Abril, that's one of the vids I watched... but it didn't help me much. Sad

Shannon... that actually makes me fell a little better. Your work never ceases to make my jaw drop and if even one so amazing as you has such trouble, well, then I guess I don't feel as bad... just still a little frustrated.

As for the pics... well, I can't find them! Mad Sad So tomorrow I'm gonna have to break the pallete out and try again so I can show you what I'm dealing with...

The biggest problem (outside not being able to do the strokes right) is that if I try to do the full rose instead of just a bud the colors go to crap after I do the bottom layer and then go to do the center. The white of the center of the rose is just BLah.... and not bright white at all... it's just a faded redish color. I even let the paint sit a while to dry but I still get the same result. What am I doing wrong?! Sad
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Post by ChangingFaceDesigns Tue Apr 05, 2011 12:16 am

I mainly do two types of roses....just added a 3rd

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Post by kat Tue Apr 05, 2011 1:18 am

I don't have any advice.. I'm just learning how to do roses m'self. Just wanted to wish you luck!

and admire all the beautiful roses posted here... wow
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Post by Britty Tue Apr 05, 2011 9:35 am

If you want I will do a step by step for you later tonight...Im working right now:)
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Post by anramire2 Tue Apr 05, 2011 2:37 pm

Britty wrote:If you want I will do a step by step for you later tonight...Im working right now:)
oh please do!!! Very Happy I need lots of help too!
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Post by Britty Tue Apr 05, 2011 2:56 pm

No problem...it will be up in a little bit! Smile
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Post by nancy! Tue Apr 05, 2011 4:58 pm

Punky, what brand do you use? I made a split of dfx just white and purple and then the white stayed white. I tried with grimas before but that didn't work, blended too easy.
It's far from perfect and their is still a lot to work on, but the colours don't blend as much like they did before. Here is a quick example.
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BTW: Maggie, Angela and Changing: your roses are beautiful
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Post by anramire2 Tue Apr 05, 2011 5:11 pm

Nancy love it
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Post by Britty Tue Apr 05, 2011 7:37 pm

OK:) Picture heavy ask me any questions you want if I made anything unclear!!! I used all diamond fx paints. The first split cake picture is one I made from the small fx pallet. I used a #4 flat brush for all work except the dots. I used a #3 round for them (not pictured) Sorry so many pictures I tried to be thorough, and made the pictures large so you can reference the whole process instead of having to click each one. Hope I helped!!!
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Post by maggie Tue Apr 05, 2011 7:41 pm

Britty, you are AWESOME! cheers These are gorgeous, amazing at how many ways are there to make roses but this one is my favorite so far. Thanks so much for sharing with us Smile
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Post by Jody Rife Tue Apr 05, 2011 8:18 pm

Thank you, so very helpful, as soon as my little girl goes to bed, I'm practicing these! cheers
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Post by anramire2 Tue Apr 05, 2011 8:39 pm

Thank you, very thorough indeed! You Rawk bounce
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Post by cc Tue Apr 05, 2011 8:41 pm

Thank you for the SBS! My rosebud isn't too bad, but when I try to add the extra petals...eeeek. Gonna try these out tomorrow. I love you
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Post by fluttersby Tue Apr 05, 2011 9:32 pm

I think that is one of the most explanatory and best pictorial step by step roses I've ever seen. Thank you for taking the time to do it.
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Post by Britty Tue Apr 05, 2011 10:19 pm

Stop now you are making me blush Wink but thank you really.
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Post by Tilly - Formerly Punky Tue Apr 05, 2011 10:43 pm

Okay... here are my pics. The roses I did today turned out a little better than the ones I did before and lost the pics. The smaller ones are done with a kryolan #10 flat brush, and the larger ones are done with a Simply Simmons 3/4" flat brush.

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If someone can please give me some clue as to what I'm doing wrong,(besides everything) I'd be eternally gratefull! I'm pretty happy with my leaves... it's just the flowers I have to work on.


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Post by IamGinaW Wed Apr 06, 2011 2:07 am

Punky, are you lifting the bottom of the brush (or using an angle brush) when you do the "front" petals?
Also, I found when I wet the brush (not spraying the cake) the white stays separate better.
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Post by nancy! Wed Apr 06, 2011 3:42 am

Britty, thanks a lot for the SBS.
Punky, your roses are not that bad to me. I like your blobs.
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