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Trouble with White Paint on Eyes Creasing~ Help!

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Post by Who B What E Sun Jun 17, 2012 7:25 pm

I seem to have trouble with white on the eyelids creasing soon after I put it on. I've tried brushing it on, and sponging it on. I've tried letting it dry and going over it again. I was using tag, but switched to DFX which seems to be worse. I'm working where it's not hot or humid. I don't think my paint is too wet, what am I doing wrong? Or is that just the nature of paint on the eyelids? Help please, I find it very frustrating especially when doing tigers, and cheetahs.
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Post by Denise Cold Sun Jun 17, 2012 8:00 pm

That's one of the reasons I like Starblends on eyes, they are a little more sturdy. You will have to powder the paint. I do that on eyes even if I'm not doing a whole Starblend design so it's more comfortable. Before I got the Starblends I would just use powder or white eyeshadow and set the paint.

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Post by Misha Sun Jun 17, 2012 8:45 pm

Yep. Same here. Also stops the kids from flinching so much!
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Post by Kat's FacesForFun Sun Jun 17, 2012 9:59 pm

I completely agree. If you are going to invest in even 1 starblend color.. get white. Tigers.. spideys... skull faces. It's a must in my opinion. If not a powder, then you should really try a paint with a creamier base. DFX is a "harsh" paint, kinda like wolfe. They are the BEST for linework, but a little too opaque for base work. I like paradise white a lot. JMHO.
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Post by debranewmanart Sun Jun 17, 2012 10:03 pm

I use DFX and don't have any trouble as long as they let it dry before they open their eyes.

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Post by a face painting mom Sun Jun 17, 2012 10:18 pm

Another vote for star blends, but when I use paint for bases on tigers, it is paradise, I don't find that it creases because of the consistency. Paradise is really creamy and can be put on a little more sheer.
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Post by TheGildedCat Sun Jun 17, 2012 11:58 pm

I really prefer paradise white for bases, including anything over eyes. I find TAG/DFx/Wolfe white too sticky and prone to wrinkling when I base out a face with them. I'm not a huge fan of starblends, but they do have their place for this exact thing.
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Post by Who B What E Mon Jun 18, 2012 7:48 am

I tried Starblends and found them to be too powdery and hard to work with and too sheer for me. I will give Paradise white a try. Has anyone tried Fab white?
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Post by PerfectlyPaintedFaces Mon Jun 18, 2012 8:36 am

I use TAG Pearl White, which goes on quite sheer and shimmery for tiger faces. And putting it on with a soft FWW sponge, it goes on almost like eyeshadow. Love it! I haven't noticed any creasing problems.
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Post by tamarielpaints Mon Jun 18, 2012 9:20 am

I second the Tag pearl white! However, if you need a solid white non-pearl base, DFX and TAG are NOT the answers! I'm debating between trying Snaz white or buying a star blend...
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Post by eva Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:23 am

I am with paradise on this one.
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Post by Psalmbook Mon Jun 18, 2012 1:14 pm

I'm more for Paradise white for sponging on the eyes. No creasing problems at all. Kryolan creases horribly..... I like Starblend also, but sometimes the powder can get in the child's eye....
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Post by lizdexia Mon Jun 18, 2012 1:21 pm

Try a Kabuki brush. You don't have to spend a lot on them, can get an EcoTools kabuki brush at any cosmetic supplies store or section of the store for less than $10. I love mine. It uses very little paint, is feather light, and can damp/dry brush on an even thorough coverage of white.
I bought the metal swivel one, that retracts and can be capped. I use the retraction to change the size of the brush a bit, so I can still use it on tiny areas. It's my absolute favorite for smooth, even, blended white coverage with no drips, no cracks, and no irritation.
To rehydrate it, use your misting bottle. You'll be surprised how seldom you have to reload it.
And to clean it for another color just use the circular motion on a paper towel until the paint is sufficiently "gone" to switch colors.
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Post by Misha Mon Jun 18, 2012 1:39 pm

I use a sponge for the color then use a big poufy blush brush to dust off the powder. I haven't had an issue yet, knock on wood!
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Post by a face painting mom Mon Jun 18, 2012 1:41 pm

That is a great tip Liz, I never think of my Kabuki Brush!
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Post by PerfectlyPaintedFaces Mon Jun 18, 2012 3:15 pm

I used my 'buki to red-ify someone's face while doing Darth Maul... it does really speed things up! I find that the FWW sponges are great for applying a full-face white. It goes on reaaal smooth, and I use Wolfe. Great for skulls and dalmatians.
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Post by OtterGirl Mon Jun 18, 2012 3:19 pm

Who B What E wrote:I tried Starblends and found them to be too powdery and hard to work with and too sheer for me. I will give Paradise white a try. Has anyone tried Fab white?

I have FAB silver and gold, and I find that they are essentially paradise--including the perfume, which is why I avoid Paradise. I'm with the Starblends folks on this one.
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Post by Who B What E Mon Jun 18, 2012 6:58 pm

lizdexia wrote:Try a Kabuki brush. You don't have to spend a lot on them, can get an EcoTools kabuki brush at any cosmetic supplies store or section of the store for less than $10. I love mine. It uses very little paint, is feather light, and can damp/dry brush on an even thorough coverage of white.
I bought the metal swivel one, that retracts and can be capped. I use the retraction to change the size of the brush a bit, so I can still use it on tiny areas. It's my absolute favorite for smooth, even, blended white coverage with no drips, no cracks, and no irritation.
To rehydrate it, use your misting bottle. You'll be surprised how seldom you have to reload it.
And to clean it for another color just use the circular motion on a paper towel until the paint is sufficiently "gone" to switch colors.

Love this advice, can't wait to try it! Thanks!
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Post by Who B What E Mon Jun 18, 2012 7:00 pm

What are FWW sponges, and where do I find them?
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Post by martha Mon Jun 18, 2012 7:36 pm

FWW sponges. http://www.facepaintforumshop.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=740
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Post by lizdexia Mon Jun 18, 2012 9:45 pm

Yay! I'm so glad! Best part is the crazy looks you get from kids when you test it on your arm for consistency after you rehydrate it. Smile
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Post by Who B What E Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:13 pm

lizdexia wrote:Yay! I'm so glad! Best part is the crazy looks you get from kids when you test it on your arm for consistency after you rehydrate it. Smile

Are you referring to the kabuki brush?
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Post by eva Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:36 pm

I have liquid foundation brushes that look like big filberts. I use them for bases and I sponge also, but I find the foundation brush to be softer , and more accurate. It also blends well. It does super fast tiger eyes and spidery eyes, dogs ears and muzzles.
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Post by lizdexia Tue Jun 19, 2012 9:33 am

Yep, I'm referring to the kabuki brush Smile And the FWW green sponges are worth every penny! Just ordered some from the facepaintforumshop.com and LOVE them. Don't know why i didn't buy them before, and won't ever be without them again. Smile

Eva--I love those brushes too. Leaves are great with the big filberts as well.
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Post by PerfectlyPaintedFaces Tue Jun 19, 2012 10:09 am

I'm finally warming up to my FWW sponges. I really like them for laying down NON-rainbow cake colours, especially white.

When I use them with rainbow cakes, I find the colours don't go on as crisply as they do with my firmer Wolfe sponges. With the FWWs, the colours blend too much and go on too softly. The Wolfe sponges keep their shape better, so the colours stay way more separated.
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