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Ugh! Being asked for personal information, what do I do?

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Post by DannyB Tue Dec 17, 2013 2:55 pm

Hi guys


I have been asked to do a family Christmas party at a military base and in order to secure funding they say they need my SIN and birthdate

OR my business number - GST

I don't want to register for my GST number because I will never make enough to have to charge taxes, and I am just NOT comfortable giving out my Social Insurance Number

Has anyone else come across this?
What did you do?

Thanks
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Post by Chuck Stark Tue Dec 17, 2013 2:58 pm

Many corporate gigs will require a W-9.
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Post by leapinglizards Tue Dec 17, 2013 3:47 pm

Yes it's common wth big companies or government clients. If you're uncomfortable with it, decline the job.

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Post by Guest Tue Dec 17, 2013 7:06 pm

I have run into two clients who require my SIN... the local college and the regional teacher's convention. If I want the job I have to provide it. A military base is a government operation - I wouldn't worry about providing the SIN, but ask if it is essential. If I had a GST number I could provide that instead, but I don't.

But they don't get my birthdate.

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Post by novice tammy Tue Dec 17, 2013 7:51 pm

I just ran into that with a local library. I see you're in Canada... In US, as they were saying, many large corps and government (because they treat paying you for your services as hiring a sub-contractor, which I hate, which means you have to wait until accounts payable cuts you a check to get paid) require our tax ID number or if we are sole-proprietor, then our social security number, but our W-9 has nothing on it asking for a birthdate. So, I don't know if that's a requirement in Canada.
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Post by fesspenter Tue Dec 17, 2013 8:28 pm

Maybe they want to mail you a birthday present!!!

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Post by nikkili26 Tue Dec 17, 2013 11:10 pm

how much are you going to make from the gig?

if it's worth your while, give them the number.

I had a gig I was offering a discount to, and they wanted MY info...so I passed.

but if it was full rate, for more than a few hours, I'd hand over the data, sure.
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Post by rthling Wed Dec 18, 2013 7:35 am

It's a military base. National security and all.
Your birthdate is on your drivers license, which they will be looking at.
If you want the job, hand over the info.
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Post by nikkili26 Wed Dec 18, 2013 10:56 am

p.s....even if you don't think you'll make enough to pay taxes, you should still be tracking all income as if you have to pay taxes....

when i first started, i honestly didn't think i'd make more than $500 my first year...

laughable how wrong i was and how quickly that has taken place.
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Post by Michael Magick Wed Dec 18, 2013 1:42 pm

here in the usa vendors MUST be w9 for anything over $600 paid to them from a company in a years time. a lot of companies are now demanding a w9 be filled out for all vendors they cut a check for. I just had one last night want to w9 me. I told them no as the amount they are paying me is under $600 and I am not required by the irs to provide one. they stated it was company policy. so i said well if this is a deal breaker then I understand but I will not be giving out personal information that can be used in identity theft. they quickly paid on a credit card. anything paid on a company card does not need to be w9.

long and short of it? i will give up the job instead of giving up my personal info. I can always get many more that do not need it. it is a choice you will need to make for your self.
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Post by DannyB Thu Dec 19, 2013 6:45 pm

Thanks everyone!
And Lisa, they better send me a present after everything I went through for this.

I decided to hand over the information, although it isn't a big gig on Saturday I live in a military city, we have a Navy base, Air base and Army, so... if I might be getting a call for every major holiday then it could totally be worth my while to be in their books.

Nikki, I am keeping track of everything and plan to file at the end of the year, but I still am not going to make enough to have to pay taxes Smile

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Post by Shelley Bellefontaine Fri Dec 20, 2013 1:47 pm

As a military spouse , i regularly work at events on base. As part of the contract I give my SIN # . I have no issue with that. I also get direct deposit to my bank account. It is just another section of the government Smile Are you working at Greenwood or Shearwater? You have NOTHING to worry about.
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Post by DannyB Mon Dec 23, 2013 6:31 am

It was Stadacona, I did Shearwater a few weeks ago but they didn't need me to give up any info, I think it might have just been Military family's with funding putting on a party. Not really sure...

Everything went well, and now I am on the books haha

Thanks Smile
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Post by saloner Thu Dec 26, 2013 10:34 pm

Shelly, you are a very good face painter. As far as the question at hand....you just have to decide if you want to claim it or not.
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Post by Shelley Bellefontaine Fri Dec 27, 2013 11:30 am

Um , I am not the original poster. I in fact work many events at my local military base( they issue T-4 slips at the end of the fiscal year), and i DO declare my income and pay taxes on what I earn . I DO NOT take money under the table Smile Thank you for the compliment though, very kind of you Smile
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Post by artyfacesbyluz Tue Dec 31, 2013 9:03 am

I have been a vendor at the military malls I had a booth at the army exchange in Germany and now I apply for one here in Florida (not enough traffic though) I had to fill out a w-9 form that is good for 1 year.
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