beauty so clean?

has anyone used this product with their face paints?
http://www.beautysoclean.com/

I have heard about it, but no personal experience or knowledge of it. Wonder what it really has in "it" that kills the bacteria without changing the chemical composition of the the makeup.....

Never used it.

I believe Pashur uses it. There was a woman that came to the FABBULAS Vendor room asking for it. She was a makeup artist and said that she sprays all of her makeup such as eyeshadows and her brushes with it. I believe it is to be sprayed directly on the makeup after each use, I cant imagine that it would affect our make up very much as it is use on delicate eyeshadow and blush cakes and it does not make them hard as even plain water can.
Here is the link to the Beauty So Clean website:

http://www.beautysoclean.com/products/sanitize-my-makeup
I will buying this for both my kit and myself!

Are you getting the spray, wipes and brush cleaner/conditioner? Let us know how you like it if you go forward. (I was put off by the $20 shipping costs!)

The site says the spray is for powder based things only. The wipes are for moist items.

I am betting it's just alcohol or something alcohol based because well, what else would sanitize? Anyway I want to try them but I need to not buy any more FP stuff this month!

Please post back if anyone tries them!

oh wow $20 for shipping!?! That's fricken ridiculous! I bet Sally's Beauty Supply has something similar!

ok, I searched the Sally's site and don't see anything like this!

Okay guys... I know you LOVE to spend money BUT... if you WANT to take these steps (and if you have been working hygienically in the first place they aren't necessary!) you can just use regular 70% isopropyl alcohol!

In a spray bottle to spray the surface of "dry" items... and in a wipe/swab to wipe off wet items.

The alcohol will evapourate and not affect your product.

Cosmetic counters have been cleaning their testers with alcohol for eons...

While I love to see good marketing and great new product ideas... I also don't see the point in paying for fancy packaging when all the "product" is, is something you already have!

Ditto what Shannon said.
You can get alcohol and alcohol wipes at Wal-Mart or CVS, etc.
You can get a spray bottle from just about anywhere also for a buck.
Why pay more for the fancy packaging and shipping.
They may have other ingredients in the product, but my guess is that the active ingredient is alcohol.

I have emailed them for an ingredient list. We'll see.

They could claim it is proprietary...

I'd be interested to see it...band as Lisa says, the active ingredient is probably alcohol.

I am saving my money for something.... good.

me too! but I'm glad I asked!

so do you think it's over the top to sanitize your face paints Shannon?


is it just not necessary with Snaz? What about the other brands like DFX, Kryolan,etc.?

I don't personally santize my products, no. But I use clean tools and sponges for everyone.

If you are using the same brushes and sponges all day, then, you could consider it BUT I am not sure of how it would work on a product that is wet now, but will dry off and solidify before reuse...

Most cosmetic products include some sort of antibacterial agent - to prevent moulds from growing. But those don't keep the germs out of the products as they don't kill viruses, etc. And contaminants aren't necessarily microscopic either - say someone sneezes in your paint? Or dirt blows in? Or flies land in it?

I don't see anything wrong in wiping off your cakes with an alcohol wipe if you feel the need. I usually wipe down my palettes with my wipes before putting away, then set them out to airdry when I get home.

I was advised by a health inspector/and the instructors at make-up school... that if the product is dry, or dries completely, that you don't HAVE to worry about contamination...

When body painting - I use disposable plates as palettes and the Fardel creams (which come in pumps like toothpaste pumps) which I squeeze out onto the plates as I need it... thus, no contact with the products. And the sponges are usually tossed too...

I use Beauty So Clean. I called them as well. It can be used on paints, brushes, powders, etc. Well, I actually use a spray with 50 percent Beauty So Clean and 50 percent vinegar. After every customer I do a quick spray of all my the brushes, paints, powders. If I pick up a sponge, I spray it as well.

I use vinegar for four reasons:

1. Heinz company spokesperson, Michael Mullen says that straight 5 percent solution of vinegar—kills 99 percent of bacateri, 82 percent of mold, and 80 percent of germs (virues).
2. It is safe, and good for the skin
3. Formerly it was an ingredient in face paint!
4. It is very inexpensive.

I also use two antibacterial wipes after each client. One, to wipe my hands and the arms of the chair the client was holding. Two, instead of a paper towel to pull excess water from my brushes.

- Lilly Walters, 909-398-1228
Henna Tattoo Artist, Face and Pregnant Belly Painter, in Claremont, La Verne, Upland, Rancho Cucamonga, San Dimas and Glendora
www.funfacepainting.com

Face Painting Classes In Southern California
http://www.funfacepainting.com/facepaintingclass.html

Author of Books on Face Painting:
http://www.funfacepainting.com/book.html

One of my vendors, (who is also a professional make up artist, clown and part time face painter) went to a seminar in the spring where they featured this product. It can be used for all regular makeup, including mascaras and lipstick, as well as face paints. My vendor is aware that I use Wolf, DFX and Snaz so I'm pretty confident that she tell me bout a product that I couldn't use. She gave me a few samples and I quite liked them. They didn't seem to cause any problems, so far anyways.

I'll stick to 70% isopropyl - you can't get cheaper than that. And it is named in my local health regulations as an acceptable sanitizer - one of four, and the other three I'm not getting into!!

I rather spend $1.85 a litre at my local store... and spend my other money on other useful things... like gas, face paint and more brushes!!

Me to Shannon, but it was for info purposes

Info is good...

I am definitely leaning toward just the rubbing alcohol and dry cotton wipes I can wet myself. What will that cost, all of $2?

Do you dilute it for sanitizing your paints Shannon?

I don't put it on my paints. As I only touch my paints with CLEAN tools I usually just wipes them down with baby wipes to clean up the palettes, and allow them to airdry overnight.

If they have had "contaminants" like dust and bugs (and glitter!) blown into them, OR, I know they've been "touched" I will rinse the whole palette under gently running water to rinse off surface dirt, dry off the tray with a paper towel and allow to airdry completely.

And NO... don't dilute the alcohol for any reason OR add things to it. You actually can cause MORE germs to grow by doing that as a "little" alcohol can provide a food source!

70% isopropyl alcohol is already diluted (hence the 70%!) and according to "my" health inspector (and the regulations!!) that is optimum for sanitizing - due to the 30% water it stays wet long enough for the 70% alcohol to make contact with things and kill the germs... any higher (90-95-99%) evapourates too fast to have any effect.

And mixing products is a no-no too - you have no idea what one ingredient will do when it gets together with another, and if ONE of them is supposed to work for the purpose stated - why on earth mix it with another?

I was told by a local health inspector that as long as the paints were allowed to DRY COMPLETELY there should be no problem. So, when I get home I lay all my palettes out to dry... easy.

Here are the APPROVED santizers:

Sanitizers

Approved methods of sanitizing equipment include:

• An ethyl or isopropyl alcohol solution of not less than 70 % (i.e. alcohol swabs)

• A chlorine solution at a strength of not less than 100 ppm (i.e. ½ teaspoon household

bleach to 1 litre of water)

• A quaternary ammonium solution at a strength of not less than 200 ppm

• An iodophor solution at a strength of not less than 12.5 ppm

Thanks for the info. Shannon!!! Since I let my cosmetology license expire 2 years ago and been out of the biz since 2002, I am a little rusty in the makeup dept.! (I am going to re-license though soon here in VT so Ii can start doing makeup gigs again (photography, weddings and makeovers), so I have to take a sanitation class again so this is good to know for both painting and for that reason!)

You're the best!

yeah & i wanted to also add I think the bleach solution is pretty standard for alot of things. Resautrants, daycares, schools, dr's offices, rinsing produce,etc..for some reason i just trust alcohol more..

what about your brushes though? Is alcohol harsh on them? Wouldn't barbicide or a brush wash be gentler? (right now I just use soap but am also just practicing on my kids too and I *always* wash their faces before painting them) I think something else will be in order once I branch out to more faces.

thanks again! good food for thought as I contemplate and put together my "professional" setup.

Bleach is pretty standard as you say... but I don't like bleach - it splashes on me and I have "bleach accidents"

70% isopropyl is the easiest - no mixing to dilute, comes in easy to carry bottles (variety of sizes 250mls up to gallons) - ready to use.

AND... it is unscented (except for smelling like alcohol!) and has no extra useless things like herbs and oils etc. that are not at all useful and are potential irritants.

Yes... it probably is harsher and drying to my brushes, particularly the sables, but... that is a cost of doing what I do. I need to handle my equipment properly and follow health regulations for applying cosmetics to people so... not an issue for me.