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Post by futurist71 Sat Aug 01, 2009 1:27 pm

Hi!

I'm new to body painting. I know there are paints available to buy and using it with my airbrush, but I want to know if there is a way to make my own paint. I'd like to make my paint with the colors I want. Could you please tell me which are the directions and the materials I should use?

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Post by LoneWolf Sun Aug 02, 2009 2:37 am

You could also just use the colours for facepainting, and brush and sponge. That is what I normally do =)
But for airbrush, why not use what is available? There are so many and as long as it is liquid enough to go through and airbrush (and is safe for the body) they are fine. You can always mix the colours, to get the one you want.
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Post by futurist71 Sun Aug 02, 2009 8:18 am

But I want to make it by myself!!! Isn't it cheaper?

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Post by LoneWolf Sun Aug 02, 2009 8:29 am

Make it from what? Pigments are expensive. i think the cheapest way is brush/sponge. Both with products, but also equipment.
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Post by futurist71 Sun Aug 02, 2009 8:50 am

I mean the paints!!!! Look at this:

http://www.ehow.com/how_4814518_own-airbrush-body-paint.html

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Post by LoneWolf Sun Aug 02, 2009 10:10 am

Too much trouble for my taste Razz I did something like that for making fake blood, since I could not get any with the right colour, but it takes time to mix. How much is your time worth?
But looking forward to see the result with your home made colours Very Happy
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Post by Heather Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:44 am

TO be honest, I actually don't think it would be cheaper to make it yourself - as is often true with cosmetic products. Buying the quantities of FDA-compliant materials that suppliers would require would definitely eat into any profit margin, and the time it would require to mix and make everything would eat into your worktime (further eating into your profit).

I'd also check with your insurance company - I'm sure many wouldn't approve of the use of home-made products.

I'm with Lone Wolf. Go with what's out there - I'm fairly certain you'll save money in the long run, you'll definitely save time, and you know that whatever you use with be safe, which is really the most important thing.

Good luck in finding what you need.
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Post by Heather Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:46 am

FYI, I just looked at that eHOW article, and they are recommending ACRYLICS as a base product. Shocked

Seriously, just buy the safe products that you need from reputable makeup suppliers. Don't risk your clients health, and safe yourself the headache of subjecting yourself to liability.
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Post by futurist71 Sun Aug 02, 2009 12:56 pm

Which products do you recommend for Body Painting, which are the best? which are the cheapest? I'm living in Europe, but I haven't had the chance to identify differences between paints. Could you please help me?!!!

Thanks in advance....

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Post by WyndyO Sun Aug 02, 2009 4:16 pm

If you are looking to save $$$$ you can use the Ben Nye liquid paints in a ration of 3 parts water to 1 part paint and mix your own colors accordingly as well. Here, I bought a small 2 oz. bottle for like $5.50 at my local mega theatre costume shop. I have heard of others also using the creams like Fardel and mixing with water. Then you can also mix using setting or fix liquid instead of or in addition to your "water" part of the formula to give your work more staying power.

Most of the reputable brands like Mehron and Kryolan (and there are more out there!!! of course) sell ready-to-use premixed airbrush ready paints. For body painting most use water based. If you are tattooing then that is another paint that is alcohol based and has a longer life on the skin 3 to 7 days depending on skin, placement, climate, and client care.
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Post by futurist71 Sun Aug 02, 2009 5:09 pm

Are these the one you are telling? Can I use these with Water for BodyPainting, do they cause allergies?? What about White color? I don't see it in Amazon.com

http://www.amazon.com/MagiColor-Liquid-Paints-1oz/dp/B002EV5X46/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=home-garden&qid=1249246863&sr=8-1

Mehron? How come Mehron or Kryolan? If they arent liquid paint... which is the ration? see the links... I'm sorry i'm newbbie!!

Mehron
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_gw?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=Mehron

Kryolan
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_gw?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=Kryolan

I'm living right now in Spain, do you know a place to buy Body Painting paints through Internet not to use Amazon (USA), Amazon UK doesn't sell Ben Nye for example...

Waiting for you opinion...! Thanks!

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Post by LoneWolf Mon Aug 03, 2009 3:23 am

Selling in Europe:
http://www.show-bizcentre.com/3eu/
http://www.dauphines.co.uk/
http://www.facepaint-uk.com/

I really like Kryolan for airbrush, but not their yellow, so have just bought some of the new Mehron Lux, but did not have had the time to try it Sad
Temptu also makes some nice products!
http://www.screenface.com/
http://www.makeup-provisions.com/

But I normally just use my Diamond FX colours for bodypaint as well Smile
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Post by futurist71 Mon Aug 03, 2009 5:18 am

How do you use cake painting for Airbrush Body Painting? do I have to mix cake paint with water to make it liquid and use my Airbrush??? As some posts described before? I dont want to bother, just let you know I'm NEW to BodyPaint!!

Kryolan for Airbrush, Is this enough? I think this is little quantity for Airbrush Paint:
http://www.dauphines.co.uk/p-kryolan-air-stream-make-up.htm

Thanks...

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Post by Metina Mon Aug 03, 2009 7:49 am

Fururist,

While we can offer all the advice in the world, some hands on training would really help you "understand" some of what we are saying. It is one thing to say how to do it, but another to show.

While you are learning, I would highly suggest going to youtube.com and viewing lots of the face painting videos. This is how I started. I watched several over and over and then painted. All before my first class.

Where are you in Europe. Maybe someone on the forum can suggest training as well.

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Post by LoneWolf Mon Aug 03, 2009 7:50 am

As written in my first post on this page: I use brush and sponge normally, not airbrush.

The Kryolan 75 ml in enough if you want to cover a whole model (normal female) in one colour.
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Post by futurist71 Mon Aug 03, 2009 8:10 am

Metina:

I just want to know about paints, trademarks, steps if you use liquid or cake paints, places to buy. Just that. Training, I think practice gives you everything. I'm in Spain.

LoneWolf:

The Kryolan you are telling is the one in this link?
http://www.dauphines.co.uk/p-kryolan-air-stream-make-up.htm

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Post by LoneWolf Mon Aug 03, 2009 8:12 am

yes, now start to paint! ;-)
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Post by futurist71 Mon Aug 03, 2009 12:47 pm

Any more suggestions?

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Post by Guest Mon Aug 03, 2009 5:19 pm

I use Fardel cream paints for body painting... longer working time for blending and based - widely available in Europe (made in Begium).

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Post by futurist71 Tue Aug 04, 2009 2:02 am

Shannon,

Fardel Cream, do you use it with AirBrush?

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Post by Guest Tue Aug 04, 2009 11:23 am

No. But they do have liquids as well which you might be able to dilute. Fantasy Worldwide (also Belgium) makes creams and liquids too - and I THINK they might do an airbrush formula (you could check.)

For Airbrush I use Dinair Airbrush Make-up. It is water based and pretty nice to use. Not sure if is available in Europe as the company is based in North Hollywood.

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Post by LoneWolf Tue Aug 04, 2009 4:06 pm

I have tried the Fantasy Worldwide in airbrush, and it worked well =)
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Post by futurist71 Tue Aug 11, 2009 8:19 am

Has someone tried this product for Body Painting? It's washable for kids!

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B000ET4544/ref=s9_simz_gw_s0_p21_t1?pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_s=center-1&pf_rd_r=01DXEC89J97R87QPA7C4&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=467198433&pf_rd_i=468294

Hope to hear from you...

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Post by Painted Dragon Tue Aug 11, 2009 9:21 am

That's craft paint, not body/face paint. If you are wanting to paint something on paper, I'm sure it would be fine. Smile
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Post by WyndyO Mon Aug 17, 2009 11:55 pm

Futurist,

Please use only ready mixed airbrush or liquid paint that you dilute from a reputable name brand manufacturer.

= Personally I would definitely not put yourself through the agony of trying to take a solid/dray water activated "cake" makeup and mixing with water to get the right consistency - your time is worth something......

= You really don't want to put a poor quality or unsafe product into a good airbrush system ($600 to $2000 or more here!) Your $3 paint or homemade concoction would likely cause your expensive system or guns to clog and you may end up with poor results or worse (rashes!) on your customers.

Some suggestions if you can find them; Kryolan Airstream premixed ready to use, Mehron Luxe for airbrush or Mehron Liquid, Makeup, Ben Nye Magicolor Liquid, Graftobian Airbrush Liquid, Australian Body Art, and many more...... perhaps the european facepaintchat forum may have some posts already on this subject and where they recommend purchasing from.

(I wish we were more helpful for you being in Spain - but aren't there a few reputable theatre shops and online stores who sell reasonably in Europe and UK??)

What I was saying in an earlier post was that if you want to save money use a liquid makeup from one of the top reputable manufacturers (usually $3 to $5 for a small one or two ounce bottle here) face or body paint makeup liquid and dilute it yourself to the consistency to go through the airbrush. Depending on the thickness of the liquid paints - that mix can be anywhere from 1/3 to 2/3 makeup with the rest of the mixture being water or barrier/fixative liquid.
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